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# Crimson weapons

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A Crimson weapon carries most players from level 70 to the start of the instances. Its attack grows with your refine and your base level, so a cheap weapon you refine beats an expensive one you do not.

### What it does

Every Crimson weapon runs the same script:

```
ATK  + 5 per 10 base levels above 70, plus (refine x refine)
MATK + (refine x refine) / 2
```

The refine part stops counting at +15, where it is worth 225 ATK and 112 MATK.

| Your state     | ATK from the script |
| -------------- | ------------------- |
| Level 70, +0   | 0                   |
| Level 100, +7  | 15 + 49 = 64        |
| Level 150, +10 | 40 + 100 = 140      |
| Level 175, +14 | 52 + 196 = 248      |
| Level 200, +15 | 65 + 225 = 290      |

Squaring the refine is what matters. Going from +9 to +10 adds 19 ATK, but +14 to +15 adds 29, and the first nine refines together only add 81. The weapon is worth carrying unrefined and worth hoarding ore for.

### The set

All of them need base level 70, have two slots, and are weapon level 3. Most accept any class that can hold the weapon type.

| Weapon                   | Type     | Drops from     | Where                       |
| ------------------------ | -------- | -------------- | --------------------------- |
| Crimson Dagger           | Dagger   | Sleeper        | yuno\_fild02, 03, 06        |
| Crimson Saber            | 1H Sword | Pasana         | in\_sphinx3, 4, 5           |
| Crimson Two-Handed Sword | 2H Sword | Tamruan        | ayo\_dun02                  |
| Crimson Mace             | Mace     | Solider        | tur\_dun02                  |
| Crimson Rod              | Staff    | Bathory        | alde\_dun04, c\_tower1      |
| Crimson Knuckles         | Knuckle  | Jaguar         | bra\_fild01                 |
| Crimson Revolver         | Revolver | Metaling, Mole | ein\_fild06, 07, 08         |
| Crimson Katar            | Katar    | Injustice      | gl\_prison, gl\_prison1     |
| Crimson Spear            | 1H Spear | Stem Worm      | Also from the Owl Duke line |
| Crimson Lance            | 2H Spear | Owl Duke       | Also Gryphon                |
| Crimson Bible            | Book     | Evil Druid     |                             |
| Crimson Violin           | Musical  | Miyabi Ningyo  |                             |
| Crimson Whip             | Whip     | Wicked Nymph   |                             |
| Crimson Bow              | Bow      | Owl Baron      |                             |
| Crimson Two-Handed Axe   | 2H Axe   | Majoruros      |                             |
| Crimson Huuma Shuriken   | Huuma    | Tengu          |                             |
| Crimson Two-Handed Staff | 2H Staff | Owl Duke       |                             |

Base drop rates are 0.5% on the ordinary monsters, which our 15x turns into 7.5%. The Swift, Elusive, Solid, Furious and Ringleader versions of those monsters drop them at 2.5%, or 37.5% here, so a variant is worth killing on sight.

### Refining it

A weapon level 3 item refines with Oridecon, and the Cash Shop sells Enriched Oridecon and Blacksmith Blessing. Enriched raises the odds, and a Blessing keeps the refine level when an attempt at +8, +9 or +10 fails, which is where most weapons are lost. See [Cash Shop](/hangoutro/cash-and-vip/cash-shop.md).

A successful refine to +8, +9 or +10 is announced to the whole server and relayed to Discord.

### When to move on

Crimson stops being the answer when an instance hands you something better for your class, which is usually somewhere past level 130. The refine you put into it is not wasted, because it stays a decent weapon to lend an alt.


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